Rahaf (00:44)
Hello, welcome back to the Really Rahaf podcast. I have another special guest with us today and I want to introduce Vy. Vy is going to share her experience in Revenue Room I wanted her to have the floor as we have a conversation with you together. She's also an avid listener of this podcast as well and says that this was like a big part of her contribution and
really showing up so powerfully inside revenue room. So I'm so excited to have this conversation with you. Hi, Vy
Vy Luong (01:13)
Hi, Rahaf Hi, everyone that's listening. This is like my has become like my favorite podcast. So I'm just so happy to be on it.
Rahaf (01:21)
I'm
so happy you're here and I wanna take some time and really talk about your timeline because it's so crazy that we've only known each other three weeks.
Vy Luong (01:30)
Yeah, I think
Friday will be like the officially the one month and I remember that because it was like the day after my birthday and I just remember telling myself like what do I really want for my birthday this year and I'm like it wasn't anything materialistic which I was just like wow I'm actually in this stage of my life because I'm a new mom ⁓ and my son was he's also he has the same birthday month as me so we shared the same birthday month and his is like two weeks after so now being a mom you know I just really
thinking about how I can be present for him and my family. I'm like, what do you want? And it revolved around having more freedom and flexibility. You know, it wasn't anything materialistic, not like, oh, I need to go buy a new purse or new shoes. That was me way back in the day. You know, like I want a new pair of running shoes or, you know, new yoga clothes. But this time around, it's like, it was all about family and how can I be a better version of myself for
him and my family and even for me, know, because the journey of being a mom has definitely been the ups and downs, you know, it's been a lot but I cherished every moment of it because it's a growth aspect of life. Yeah.
Rahaf (02:44)
Yeah,
yeah, and time is more valuable than anything. I mean, I feel like the more experiences we have in life, the more we realized how precious time is and how we'll do anything to put ourselves in a situation where we're looking out for our future and looking out for the people that we love. So tell me about how we met, because how did we meet? Let's talk about this timeline, because we have, let's say, a three and half week timeline.
Vy Luong (03:00)
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah
Yeah, I think I've started following you before I found your page and I was Digesting into all of your content and it's around the time and I was like getting started into high ticket sales And my journey was probably about end of August when I pretty much like started really getting into all of this and I'm like I want to learn how to help more to find out how to level up myself and no not go back into corporate, know because when I was on maternity leave and
like two weeks before getting ready to go back to work was when I got that call and said that my position was eliminated and the whole entire department was let go. So that was the loophole. I didn't even know that that was possible. You know, I thought I was safe. It was two weeks before getting ready to go back. I was getting prepared for that.
Rahaf (03:50)
Mm.
Vy Luong (03:56)
everything just went downhill from there but honestly I see it as a different calling now and just seeing a positive side to that that I'm glad that I got to be home and to see all of the milestones of my son up until now he's you know he's two so it's definitely it was definitely a blessing in disguise you know so I followed you and I don't think we even connected with each other or anything like that and then you had reached out to me it was just like
Welcome to my little corner Are you here for the content or did you need some help? And at that point I was like...
I need some help. At that point, had already, I was, ⁓ I was actually in another sales Academy before I got certified, you know, got the foundations dove into everything that I could, but I just felt like I still wasn't ready, you know? And
just crazy to think that you go through a course thinking that if you follow everything that you feel good and have all the skills that you need, even with the certificate, but I can finally say I was like nowhere near ready. feel like I needed so
much help with the strategies and implementing it because it's one thing to learn and write it all down. I'm good at that. You know, I'm like, can write down things and listen to it here all day long word for word. But then when it comes down to like taking action, like that's the scary part. ⁓ and just having like a coach on your side that you can talk to.
on a regular basis and really have that intimate conversation as to what do I need help with and how the coach can support me was everything. Because after the program, I just felt like, where do I go
Who do I reach out to? You just feel so alone. And I just felt like I didn't even know what to do next. So I'm glad that I took that leap of faith and
I really felt that connection with you because you just seem so genuine and authentic. That's something that really resonates with me is I don't want to work with just anyone and everyone. There's got to be that alignment. I definitely felt that connection with you. So I'm just so happy to be here.
Rahaf (05:57)
my gosh. just to back up in that timeline, you started by saying something so important is you thought that job was safe. you, cause we think, we think, the corporate job, the nine to five, like that's the safe paycheck. And I think it creates this illusion of safety. But when it comes down to business and cutting people back and laying people off and you going on maternity leave and you coming back and your position's gone. So how safe really is that job? So.
just honoring you for putting the power in your own hands to take control over your life, to learn a skillset like sales and build a life around it. So you joined the program and you mentioned, you felt like something was missing. You weren't really getting what you needed. Can you talk more about like what you didn't get? Because a lot of the programs out there follow the similar structure. And I talked to a lot of women who feel this gap. So can you talk to me more about this gap that you felt?
Vy Luong (06:32)
Yeah.
Yeah, totally. ⁓ I think coming into that program, there was hundreds of girls. And so I just felt like a small fish in the sea. was just so crazy because I thought I would, you know, feel like that intimate connection. But little did I know I was kind of like...
shying in the corner. didn't want to raise my hand. felt intimidated by everybody else that was answering questions. So I think that larger group setting was definitely hard and scary for me. You know, like I didn't feel confident enough to raise my hand. didn't feel confident about
wanting to do a mock call or ask any questions. And so from there, you know, that's when I
like, if you're not implementing what you're learning, you're not going to get the result that you want. So it's like, you can go through all of the self paced courses, you know, you can dive into all that material, write it
But you got to take action because without that
not gonna get that result
Rahaf (07:47)
Yeah, which is why YouTube videos and freebies and master classes and webinars can only get us so far. And I remember too, because you joined another program after that. So you did the course, you joined another program. So can you tell us about that?
Vy Luong (08:00)
Yep, that was the second program after that.
where I thought maybe I could take my skillset to the next level in high ticket, you know, but it turned out that the structure was actually causing me more stress and anxiety due to the fact that like I'm on the West Coast and these group calls were taking place at 5 a.m., 6 a.m. and I'm like, how do you do that when you are a mom and you have a two year old, you know, and I was
actually just being really hard on myself and
and
feeling so much guilt and shame that, my gosh, I couldn't get on that 5 a.m. call, couldn't get on that 6 a.m. call. So I just knew that cortisol pumping through me was not something that resonated with me. So I like this structure a lot more because there's a balance and that flexibility that I need. And there's the call recordings in case something happens. But obviously, there's a difference when you're able to show up as opposed to having the call recordings. But that previous program didn't have
of those ⁓ group calls. So this definitely resonated me more with having that flexibility and the freedom when I'm able to hop on and deal with my life.
Rahaf (09:14)
You know, and the fact that you kept going, because it's very easy to be discouraged the first time and say, I guess it just doesn't work for me. But you kept going because your big why be spending time with Leo and spending time with family and having that free time to yourself. mean, that was the power that took you through to even invest in that second program. And I think we met what two weeks after after the second program was when we connected on our first call.
Vy Luong (09:38)
Yeah,
even then I was just like, I had no hesitation, maybe a little bit, but I just knew that
It's the investment that you make in yourself that's going to get you that life that you want. So was scary. You we all have doubt we all have that fear, but I knew it's like you got, you can be resourceful. And this is that return of investment that I'm going to need that skillset that's going to change my life forever so that I don't have to go to corporate and I don't have to go back to nine to five.
Rahaf (10:11)
Yeah. And then coming into Revenue Room with me and Mike and the women two weeks after investing in the second program. And, you know, it's just so beautiful because the second program you invested in was like high ticket affiliate, like learning about affiliate and how to be, you know, how to send the DMs, how to do all of that, which is incredible because as soon as you came in, there was an opportunity for you to practice what you join that program for inside Revenue Room. So
Vy Luong (10:27)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Rahaf (10:39)
Do you want to share a little bit about how you were able to bring that skill set inside and how you're already able to make that ROI back before even getting your training done?
Vy Luong (10:49)
Yeah, and I think that was crazy to even see that I was able to bring that skill set that I was learning over here, which is pretty much like being an affiliate for you. But I think what I was struggling with is having the frameworks. So what you provide in the container, the Miro and the frameworks and being able
Rahaf (11:06)
Yeah.
Vy Luong (11:09)
see from the start to end where you move down, because I'm a visual learner and that's how I learn. don't brain I'm like, I struggle with like brainstorming things, you know, but when I see it, it's like,
the path is there, you just study that and follow that and you really can't go wrong. So I'm glad that I just dove in and I
myself in the curriculum. I even had to watch videos maybe four times, break it down into like, listen to something. Okay, what does that word mean? What does this sentence mean? I really resonate with it. I really had to figure out the way to learn this material in a whole new different way.
that I can take all in because you can't learn it all in one go. There's just so much high value information. And it's all new things. It's almost like learning a new subject, a new language, you know? So really find out what works for you. And I'm glad that I just started taking action right away. Because as soon as I saw that you had that affiliate, the first way to make a quick win, I'm like, I'm going to do it. You just got to go all in and just don't be afraid and just take the leap of faith and believe in yourself that if you're
Rahaf (11:58)
Yeah.
Vy Luong (12:17)
practicing
it's like riding a bike you know you don't learn how to ride a bike the first time you get on a bike you're gonna fall you're gonna trip you're gonna get some bruises and that's exactly how I feel sometimes I'm in a message and I'm like my brain just fogs up but I'm like just take it easy go back to your notes go back to the framework you got this and somehow before three weeks I already made my first commission
Rahaf (12:33)
Yeah.
amazing
and you know it's like there's no limit to that either so even while you're getting trained you can make $500 per affiliate just bring them in and it's beautiful too because only the students inside have the ability to do that and you are just that star student energy who's just taking advantage of any opportunity so that you can learn like and I think what distinguishes you from someone who might not see success is your intrinsic motivation
Like internally, internally, you are so motivated to just learn sales because you know that when this is dialed, then everything external comes from that. And I remember like when you first came in, we did so much work with your, like your baseline. Like, can you talk more about that because of that switch from like the five, six AM waking up, getting straight on the computer. How did that anchor in your baseline so that you could receive all this knowledge after you joined revenue room?
Vy Luong (13:23)
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was definitely hard. think I came into, well before like doing that intro call with you and you taught me how to get back to my baseline and do the groundwork. I was having high
I was stressed. ⁓ You know, I was just really flustered and I was not forgiving to myself. You know, I would always feel, I would start my day pretty much with like shame and guilt, you know,
being able to get onto that 5 a.m. call and 6 a.m. call. And that energy...
is going to bounce off to Leo and I definitely didn't want that anymore because I could tell he was getting flustered and so that was just not a good energy that I wanted to continue down the path for so I'm glad that you showed me how to get back to my my baseline and do some of the things that sometimes you kind of just forget like even listening to music you know going outside staying in the sunlight listening to the birds all the little things that I kind of just forgot you
just even those little things you got to make that time for yourself and it's like a non-negotiable
Like your morning ritual needs to be a non-negotiable to set the tone for the day. And I feel like I had lost that. So I'm so glad that now I've just rewired my mindset to do that snap and shift. Like, no, I'm not letting that happen. You know, I'm going to go for a walk. I'm going to listen to the really rahaf podcast because that just sets my day. Like I have all of these tools that I know I can go back to just to get myself to feeling centered and focusing and not allowing that anxiety to
come up.
Rahaf (15:08)
So beautiful, so beautiful, especially because what you said before, like Leo deserves to see you feeling like this because especially at that young age, he's looking at you, he's learning about you, how to act like you. They're very spongy, like their brains are very spongy. So once again, like that motivation is so strong and walk us through like what you're training in revenue room. Like what is it that you're primarily training on? What your opportunities look like?
Vy Luong (15:37)
So right now I'm focusing on ⁓ my DM sets. I'm pretty much all in action. I'm dealing with the objections that come through and that's the best way to learn because now I'm like, I'm getting hard objections or I'm like, I really got to pause and think about this, but it really just comes back to how can I provide this value to someone else that's wanting to learn high ticket sales? They don't want to just stay in the corporate life and they want to get out of their nine to five or they're also a mom. So I'm really,
taking myself out of the equation now and just thinking about what is a solution that I can provide for them and just showing them that this space is definitely what is going to help them and having a coach in the world makes all of the difference so that you don't feel alone, that you can have the support of everyone else that's in there. We're all in the same journey. We're all women that are fired up. So I think it's just so important to be in that community because when you're doing it by yourself, like
gets lonely and it's so easy to get lost in your thoughts and those limiting beliefs just come up so I'm just so glad that I have this space to keep me
Rahaf (16:47)
Yeah,
I'm so happy you mentioned that because that's one of the biggest things I stand for is community, especially in what you said, you know, leaping from the nine to five world into high ticket sales and doing your own thing, you know, being a remote closer, being a remote setter, it's against the grain of what we're used to. And if you know me, you've heard me talk about blue pill and red pill, but that blue pill to red pill conversion, it is scary because the majority of the people around us, the 99 %
they have that mindset of, that's scary. that's not safe. that's not predictable. When really the evidence is contrary to that, because what did you say? You lost that safe blue pill job when you came back from maternity leave. So there's a lot of evidence if we were to look around, we start to see that this doesn't make sense. But when we're in it and we are making that leap, it feels very lonely. It feels very scary. It feels very much like I'm doing this on my own. So all it takes is that one person to not believe. But
then you look around at the room that you're in that's supporting you and you're like, wow, like people actually believe in me. They actually are hyping me up.
Vy Luong (17:49)
Yeah,
totally. It makes all the world of a difference. Because I feel like I've always been the odd one out of my family and my friends are like, why do you think that that is possible? know, like, why do you why do you even like want to think that you can do that? Like nobody else is doing that. But I'm like, I think I can and I'm willing to find out if I can do it. Yeah. Yeah.
Rahaf (18:12)
Yeah. And that's exactly what you're doing. So
I'm curious, walk us through like what the training looks like for you. Like you as a DM setter inside, like what does your day to day look like? What is, you know, how does it look like for you being in revenue room as far as like consuming the content, being on the calls?
Vy Luong (18:30)
So.
I I've learned to just really dive into my morning rituals. So I've learned just to not pick up my phone, leave, like leave, leave it for later, like 30 minutes to an hour later. So now, you know, I'm playing with Leo, I'm having that time to be present with him. So I'm not flustered and stressed. ⁓ And then I love just listening to the podcast. I'll listen to one of your episodes. I probably listened to the same one three or four times already. So whatever day, whatever the day is that I'm feeling, I'll pick up.
episode to listen to it to really set that intention
then after that I'll do some journaling and I love that you provided the four questions I think it's like who you are or
where do you want to be or what do you want to receive today? So I follow that same
I'm like, whatever's working for rahaf it's going to work for me. So I'm like, I don't want to think about anything. I'm just going to follow what works and that's what I do. So I've been loving that journaling and then I'll get into the curriculum and just start tackling things that I need to focus on. I'll go back into the framework and just focus on like the route that I want to focus on. And I handle like different objections that I want to work through.
Rahaf (19:21)
you
Vy Luong (19:42)
And I think it's just really diving down to bits and pieces of the framework because it's not something that you're just going to read and you get right away. Like today, I think I really told myself, like, even though I went through the whole curriculum, like there's little bits and pieces that when you're not reading the notes and you're actually in action, it's different. And I'm like, I have a hard time actually applying it. So that's something that I'm focusing on. And I think the main thing is making it fun as well, because once you take the fun out of it, that's where the anxiety comes back up. So I always remind myself.
Like how can we make that fun? know, like who's this person that you're talking to like, okay She's in school right now and she's figuring out how she can do this part-time. I'm like, okay I got this like there's a way that we can make this work part-time for you You know, there's just so many different solutions available and I think
how to be resourceful is the biggest thing too that if you really want something
It's not that you have to have money and that's something that was a big lesson for me this year is I'm always like, I don't have the money to do something, but that's all of us. know, a lot of us don't have money laying around investing yourself, but when you get resourceful, when there's a will, there's a way for sure.
Rahaf (20:51)
And
that was the version of you that stepped inside is the resourceful part of you. So as soon as you came in, you started getting resourceful with your time. You started getting resourceful with your energy because you practice getting resourceful with money in that one time. And that's what I talk about all the time. It's like, it's not just about money. It's like, it really is that initiation of like, who do I want to be in this program? Someone who says, how can I do this? How can I get crafty? How can I get creative? How can I make my morning ritual part of my everyday? So it really channeled that resourceful part of you.
And I love too how you said that you listen to episodes and you know what worked for you. Like there's no need to reinvent the wheel, which is like the premise of what we've created. Like the whole point is like pay attention to someone who's done the thing that you want to do and then find your version of it. But there's no need to start from scratch. There's no need to figure everything out from ground zero. That's why mentorship is so important because of time. You know, we value our time so much that we get to collapse that timeline, invest a little bit of money.
and then become the person that we've been wanting to be without having to work for someone else in a corporate structure. It's like we get to start living the dream right now without the ceiling of time per hour. And you've been able to do that so well. And it's just so inspiring to so many women that are even listening to this right now. Like you are evidence for that story that you don't have to just wake up on autopilot every day and just look in your mirror and say, okay, I got to go to work. I got to be around people. I don't want to be around.
Like you took that initiative and I think it's so beautiful and inspiring that so many people are like at that breaking point. So I wanna ask you like for that woman, for that woman that is sitting there and she's like, my God, like I'm so close to being able to do this. What would you say to her right now?
Vy Luong (22:35)
would say do it.
I feel like I relate to everyone that is tirelessly scrolling at night diving into those YouTube videos. I've done it all. really have. And it just takes so much time and energy, you know, and it's just like, how long can you keep doing that? And you really, when you really sit and think about how long I've been doing it for, I've done it for years, you know? And it's just like, I'm at this point now that I don't want to waste any more time being present is so important because I feel like I was just pregnant and I just
a baby but now my son is two. So it's just like what is the next two years going to look like? And if I actually had to go back to corporate and go to you know back to a nine-to-five now I would say I would be miserable and I would probably be so sad you know I'd probably cry myself at my desk wanting to be at home with my son and it's just sad that that's people's realities and that some people are okay with that and some are not but there is a way out if you really want to do something you can make it work.
Rahaf (23:09)
Hmm.
Vy Luong (23:36)
for yourself and it's scary. Everything new that you do, everything that you learn is always scary. But I think that's also the fun part about it is finding yourself again because as a mom, felt like because I've been out of work for so long, I was starting to feel like I was losing myself. You lose the confidence, the self value. And I started thinking like, what skill set do I have to bring back to the world? You know, like you all the questions, all the limiting beliefs come through your mind as a mom. But I'm
Rahaf (23:53)
Hmm.
Vy Luong (24:06)
glad that being a mom now it's become my superpower. know, like I function so well with just the lack of sleep and the million things that I get done. I'm, I surprised myself that when you want to, when you need to be a mom and you have to be there for your child, you do everything. So it's like apply that to
different parts of your life. You can also do it too, you know, use that superpower to leverage to where you want to be and learn that, that skillset. That's going to be the number one asset to any
that you do.
Rahaf (24:38)
Yeah,
and that skill set you're learning, doesn't just end. You have that for the rest of your life. mean, learning sales, it being the highest income generating skill set, mean, everything in life is sales. Anything you want to do, communication, relationships, everything comes back to learning sales. And I think it's really interesting too, how we don't even realize how much our relationships in our life start to change when we understand how to ask certain questions and guiding questions.
Vy Luong (24:48)
Yeah.
Yeah
Rahaf (25:05)
And what you've been able to do is really design your life around the work that you're doing. And I think with a nine to five structure, we don't really have an opportunity to do that. It's like, no, we have to show up these hours. We have to show up when we have our cramps, when we're on our period. It's like, we just have to push through all this stuff all the time. And we're not in sync with the world, with the universe, with God, with source Like we're just, we're feeling very disconnected from everything around us. So no wonder it feels like the magic has worn away.
Vy Luong (25:31)
that you mentioned the spiritual aspect because I felt like I was losing that.
Rahaf (25:36)
Hmm.
Vy Luong (25:38)
I feel like being in corporate, you know, it's like heads down, do what you need to do. Hit those numbers. No one is asking you,
how are you feeling today? You know, over time, I felt like just living in that energy just really wore me down, you know, and I was losing all the skills on how to get back to my baseline, living in that masculine energy that I was forgetting about my feminine energy, you know, I'm sure a lot of women can relate to that. It's like we need that flexibility. We need the freedom.
Rahaf (25:47)
Yeah.
you
Vy Luong (26:08)
freedom, especially being a mom and having children. It's like you need to have something for yourself that's going to give you all of that. A nine to five corporate job doesn't even care if you're a mom. They don't care how you're feeling, what you're dealing with. You still got to show
Rahaf (26:22)
Yeah,
yeah. that's so, it's so, so, so true. And it's the reality of so many women, whether they're moms, whether they're right out of college wanting to do something with their degree and the only opportunities are just barely making any money. And you're like, is this it? Like, did I really put all this time and work only to go to a job that I feel like is not really capturing my full essence? So, wow. And...
Vy Luong (26:46)
Yeah.
Rahaf (26:49)
You know, thank you so much for taking the time to be here Vy, and to talk to us. For those of you listening, like Vy is inside revenue room. This is like the experiences of the woman inside. There are immediate opportunities to start making money that only the students inside have, like Vy said, like affiliate opportunities, basically referring other women to revenue room and then getting a commission right away. You also have abilities to like, who I bring onto my team is
I hire internally. when setters and closers are training and they want to be put on roles, something opens up on my team. They have first dibs and Vy is right there in line wanting the DM setting role as one of the gigs. And it's nice to be in a space like that where you truly are getting trained and you have.
immediate access to those opportunities. But more importantly, we teach you how to outreach. We teach you how to get on other offers. Like we are with you every step of the way. So you're not just learning it and you're like, I'm all on my own. Like we teach you the sales, A to Z. You don't need any experience. The experience is you being in this program and then also teaching you how to interview properly and how to outreach all those coaches as well.
Vy Luong (27:58)
Yeah, and I also want to say I've never seen
a coach. mean you and Mike, your partner, you guys are just doing it differently I have to say. The amount of work that you put into it, because I see it, I'm inside the course, I see the updates that have happened and how you're building out this program to where it was and where you want it to be. It's just so much dedication and it's just amazing how much you guys are putting into it. can tell, you know. So if you're looking for
Rahaf (28:27)
Yeah.
Vy Luong (28:29)
A place where there's authenticity, they're genuine, they care about you, the support and love, it is all here. It is all here. It's never felt like such a home space for me.
Rahaf (28:41)
We love having you inside and our mission is to really get more women out of the rat race, out of the nine to five. So really appreciate you taking the time to be here and share your story and really show other women that are in that, like that little gap of like being so close, showing them what's next for them.
Vy Luong (28:55)
Yeah. ⁓
sure. Just do it. Take the leap of faith. Believe in yourself is the start. It's just like anything that you want. It's like just remember when you really wanted something, what did you do to make it work? And how did you think outside of the box? Because I've learned now that money literally is just
It's just crazy that now I'm learning it and I thought about like, it true? But
Rahaf (29:18)
Yes.
Vy Luong (29:22)
I lived it, I'm doing it right now. I'm like, I don't have the money to do it, but when you become resourceful and you're dedicated into wanting to be that change for yourself, but ultimately the bigger picture for me is like my son and my family, you'll find a way to do
⁓
Rahaf (29:40)
Mmm. Could not have said it better, Vy. You could not have said that better. Money is energy. Wow.
Vy Luong (29:44)
Yeah, it so is,
Rahaf (29:52)
Well, thank you again for being here. This has been such an incredible episode and we'll see you next week on the Really Rahaf podcast. Bye everybody.
Vy Luong (30:02)
Bye.
